Last week the Citizens' Assembly finished its work examining how illegal drugs are dealt with in this country and whether a more enlightened approach is required.
One very interested observer of the work was Maynooth University law lecturer, Dr Cian Ó Concubhair, whose specialist area is in policing.
Cian also had personal interest in the assembly and its deliberations dating from an event in his own life that ultimately led him down a path to studying law.
Dr Ó Concubhair join's Mick on this week's podcast.